What can be cut on a cnc machine. How to make money on a CNC machine? What operations does a milling machine perform

  1. The topic has been moved from the closed part of the forum. As the practice of our communications has shown, many of us have a problem - a simple CNC machine. There is a machine, there are models, but there are no sales. What is the problem? And it is simple, not the right marketing policy, but in a simple way - they did not find their buyer. I have had six years of experience in this area, not so much, but I got a lot of first bumps. So I decided to share with people so that you do not repeat the mistakes of others.
    So the option, the machine costs and does not bring income.
    The only way out is to look for a client, there are at least three win-win options, I will briefly talk about all of them, and then you will ask questions, if I can answer.
  2. Option number 1. SOUVENIR. Decide if there is a suitable, well-visited resort near you, or a museum, maybe a monastery. In short, a place where there is a large influx of tourists. Features of this option are that souvenirs should not be expensive, the average price is 3-5 ye. Stop on it. Here's my example, next to me here are such frequently visited places, the Kanev grave of T. Shevchenko in the season is visited by 2000 tourists daily. Then Shevchenkovo, the museum of Taras Shevchenko, where he was born in the season - 500 tourists a day. And Uman, dentropark "Sofiyivka" - goes to the seven wonders of Europe, daily - from 6,000 to 10,000 tourists. Everywhere there are several points where they sell souvenirs, go straight to the sellers and offer a themed souvenir. I settled on Shevchenko, though I had to order a model three years ago, it cost me 200 ye. I made three sizes of small 100 * 80 mm - the price is 3.5 cu, the average 160 * 120 mm - 6.5 cu, and the large 290 * 220 mm - 20 cu.
    The material was parquet production waste, only for large ones I bought separately, and I bought waste at the price of firewood.
    Painting is the cheapest, simple stain, simple primer and varnish.
    Demand is huge for 2007 and 2008, I don’t remember, but here are the numbers for last year.
    Small - 500 pcs, medium - 150 pcs, large - 50 pcs. This year, only for March, already in the order of small 200 pieces, medium 50 and large 15. (in fact, work for 2.5 weeks)
    Earnings on these souvenirs are not big, but still, to maintain pants, why not, especially if the machine is idle, and if normal orders are sent, then you can put it aside, usually they don’t set deadlines for souvenirs. Here is a photo of the product. Options #2 and #3 in the evening when I get back from work.
  3. Option number 2. Furniture decor. Most are already familiar with this, the creation of custom-made furniture decor for furniture companies. The option is no longer for additional earnings, but for permanent job. True, it is quite difficult to unwind it. Here the catalog of models will not help, here we need specific developments for each kit. I will say right away, exclude large factories, as they say, do not produce competitors. A large factory will thank you, buy such a machine, hire a specialist and do the carving without you, you will just lose time. Alas, I got burned on this, and twice, it didn’t teach me to see for the first one. So don’t repeat my mistakes.
    Look for small firms, they are fighting for a place in the sun, and your offer may be of interest to both of you. But you just need to try, usually several running models are jointly developed, you carve them and everything else. Here firms can even take over painting and grinding. The best option. I personally know 3-5 such clients, and the machine is loaded with regular work. The main thing is to convince furniture makers that with your carved decor, at a relatively low cost, they will reach a new level of sales and quality, and will be able to sell not consumer goods, but exclusive items. But here it all depends on your ability to convince. And of course, don’t be overwhelmed by the price, keep in mind that on the market you can buy Chinese furniture decor at a very low price.
    There is a minus in this option, now the crisis and furniture sales have fallen, according to data for Ukraine by 65%, there is less work naturally and you earn less.
    Another disadvantage is the constant loading and tight deadlines, if you want to make a picture for yourself, you may not have time because of the turnover. Why I moved away from this, now I make decor only for my needs. And those were overlays. For third-party orders, they did not have time to do for themselves. Although sometimes firms call and simply beg to do something.




  4. Hi Sasha, how is the work, the finished product, evaluated. With and without painting?
  5. We count the thread from a square decimeter - 1dm2 - 4 ue (relief height 15 mm); 1dm2 - 5 ue (relief height 20 mm); 1dm2 - 6 ye (relief height 25 mm); 1dm2 - 8 ye (relief height 30 mm). Further already on the vskidku. The price was plucked from the cost of 1 hour of machine operation - 10 ye. Since our employees did not carry out a clear calculation, just offhand.
    Grinding is usually 0.25 - 0.5 ye 1 dm2. But we also look at the complexity of the relief.
    We add the price of the material separately, also from the area, if we make it from waste, we don’t even take it into account.
    Painting was considered from 1m2, it all depends on the price of materials, usually it turns out from 10 to 30 ye. On each bank, the approximate area of ​​\u200b\u200bpainting in one layer is written. From this we calculate the price.
    Manual labor here is a separate conversation, we look at the complexity.
    This is only at first glance difficult, then when you calculate the exact price for 5-6 products, you already determine the price at a discount by throwing 5-10% for an error.
  6. Thanks
    Do you use Seirlak? Or others?
    Is the price cheaper for furniture organizations?
  7. " Or others?

    Now it’s gone, there were problems with it both in application and storage. Although he looks good.
    On painting later in a separate topic.

  8. In my opinion, $ 5-10 per thread is not enough. According to my estimates, the cost of carving comes out to $ 16-30 for 1 hour, the calculation was based on the operation of the machine for 16 hours for 2 years, taking into account the salary of one person, electricity, rent, taxes.
    But about the grinding of the relief, who does it, you can find out?
  9. “ According to my estimates, the cost of the thread is $ 16-30

    Yes, manual costs 10-15ue. for 1dm2 The machine cannot stand 2 times more than the manual one. This time. First of all, your miscalculation is off scale. I don’t know about you, but in terms of electricity, my machine pulls only 3kv. per hour it is somewhere around 0.2 ye, my worker receives 2.5 ye per hour. My city is not big and such a salary suits many people. Moreover, he is not just standing near the machine, he has set up the program and does other work. Rent does not count your premises, taxes are a separate issue here. But all the same, with all calculations, he gets 4.5 ye. in hour. The rest is income. If there is no work, you should not chase after extra profits, equaling that someone somewhere is selling more expensive. You need to look at what works for you.

    “ In Pitra, Italian beech decor costs 3-4 times more

    For this I am aware of the same with us. And they make this ITALIAN decor at our factory in Zhytomer. They mold the label and go ahead. (I don’t really know how it is in St. Petersburg, but I can’t believe that our people don’t earn money on this business). The information is verified, I was even in Zhytomyr at this factory.
    In addition, if you look up to the Italians, you will not earn anything. If the machine costs you still pay taxes, rent, wages. In addition, you can negotiate with the sellers of Italian decor, there are always options. The main thing is not to be lazy.

    “ Can you elaborate on what kind of icons (at least the picture is sideways), how much they pay for this, who is the buyer?

    I will talk about this in the third version.
    Here is the archive there, a text file, and a photo of the icons that I prepared for samples. I sent it in PM to those who were interested. There was no club back then. I established a dialogue with one person, I think if they succeed in painting, I will share the order with them.
    http://depositfiles.com/files/qlp0u46cl

  10. Also for reference if the tool is made. I posted the drawing in the "cone cutter" topic.
    The machine makes 3 dm2 threads per hour with a depth of 15mm. 2.5 dm2 20mm deep. Deeper we now rarely mode. Here, of course, these are rough figures, and it also depends on the terrain. But with difficult terrain, we throw a little.
  11. trewas
    Amers have long brought their production to China, you think that for Moscow, therefore, the sum goes off scale, there, in my opinion, the production should not be located .. trade, finance and everything, and the working force for 100 km from Moscow is an order of magnitude cheaper, I would be quite arranged $ 10 per dm2, excellent prices ... let me cut you also at a discount in Volgograd .... It's a joke, but there is some truth in every joke................. ....
  12. “ Calculation for Moscow

    Salary at 8th hour? This is where the cost goes up. We have 2.5 ye. Here's the difference.
    But this is probably only for Moscow? And then the rates should be lower.

  13. Will we take into account shipping costs? The need per month is one piece, the serial number is no more than a dozen, delivery will cover the difference in the cost of the thread. China is beneficial in the case of thousands of copies, the possibilities of Chinese and Indonesian carvers have already been calculated.
    was at the exhibition good offer from Riga, but customs, transport, and other expenses raised the price for 1 piece by two to three times.
  14. “ China is profitable in the case of thousands of copies

    Just ran for a couple of minutes.
    In Ukraine, Chinese carvings can be bought freely, the price is somewhere around 1-1.5 ye per dm2, but, all models are theirs, you understand, Chinese motives. From the normal decor, nothing at all, there are no more than 20 models. And the material is not clear, like beech or clear, but the structure is not theirs.
    I have a catalog of such a carving from a company from Kyiv that sells it, here is one page, if it’s interesting, I’ll scan it later and post the rest, but later I have a lot of tasks anyway, I still need to start the topic with painting, hands won’t reach.

    “ Will we take into account shipping costs?

    Delivery, personally, I always negotiate separately with the customer. We usually agree amicably. Either they will pay for the fuel and the operation of the car (we don’t drive too hard), or they will pick it up themselves. There were no overlays. Our price is good in 8 cases out of 10 they take it themselves. If the delivery is out more expensive than work we just refuse.
    I already wrote about this, look at the topic Velcom.

  15. I found interesting and useful books here -

Milling tanks have wide functionality, which allows them to equip almost any production. And CNC provides high productivity and reduces the cost of products by several times.

Lathes and milling machines, as well as other metalworking equipment can be various kinds. They differ in dimensions, performance, the ability to process specific materials, etc. CNC milling machines are expensive large-sized equipment that can be purchased by large factories.

What is a CNC Router

A milling machine is a device that allows you to process wood or metal with a milling cutter. This is a nozzle of a special shape, with its help you can process the surface of the material or drill holes, grooves, etc. into parts. In a small workshop, desktop fixtures are used, and in large industries, huge milling machines with numerical control (CNC) are installed.

Due to the fact that the processing process is controlled by a computer, it is possible to achieve a reduction in labor costs for workers, since one operator can serve about 5 machines. At the same time, labor productivity and the quality of finished products increase several times.

What operations does a milling machine perform

With the help of milling equipment, you can perform a wide range of operations that can be divided into groups based on their complexity:

  • the simplest work performed on milling machines is surface preparation and cutting blanks. Such work is extremely rarely performed on CNC machines, this is possible only if it is impossible to carry out this operation using other equipment;
  • giving the product its final shape. On CNC milling machines, it is possible to obtain shapes of varying complexity from blanks;
  • drawing serifs, grooves and reaming;
  • polishing. This type of work is the final one in the processing of wood or metal;
  • engraving. All kinds of drawings and inscriptions can be applied to different surfaces. CNC machines allow you to make very beautiful decorative products.

The capabilities of a CNC milling machine are not limited to performing any one of the above functions. Such equipment can be programmed to perform several sequential operations, representing the production cycle.

- How to start your own business? - This question is often asked by any person who does not yet have his own business. Stops a lot of factors. But very often your own business is the only opportunity to realize yourself correctly, to sell your free time at a higher price.

One of the successful and rapidly growing business areas is the processing of materials on CNC machines. There is no need to work with your hands, and sometimes, if you work correctly, you don’t even need to get dirty.

Cutting materials:

Almost anything can be machined, with the exception of hard materials.

Calculation with a minimum budget

One-time costs:

  • , 1 piece: 95 000 rubles.
  • minimum furniture: 2000 rub.
  • minimum stock of materials: 30,000 rubles.

Total: 144,000 rubles

Monthly costs:

  • minimum rent production premises: 5 000 rub.
  • electricity: 3 000 rub.
  • the cost of consumable tools (milling cutters, engravers, drills): 5,000 rubles.
  • advertising costs: 20,000 rubles.

Total: 33,000 rubles

Depending on the material being processed, the price per linear meter of cut varies significantly from 20-500 rubles. Let's take an average price of 60 r / m, cut at a speed of 1500 mm / min. Those. 90 meters are cut in 1 hour, 720 meters in an eight-hour working day, which is 43,000 rubles.

Monthly income with such a load of 22 days * 43,000 rubles / day = 946,000 rubles.

Let's take a machine load of only 10% of the time due to the lack of a flurry of orders, time for preparing files, communicating with customers, fixing the workpiece, changing tools, and so on. economic activity. This is 94600 rubles, such income pays for the costs of starting a business in the second month.

And if you consider that you already have some kind of customer base, then that the machine, unlike a person, can work not 8, but all 24 hours, that cutting some materials can be more expensive, you can cheat on materials up to 50%, up to 100% surcharge for urgent work, and additional income comes from preparing the file for processing.

Total 946,000 rubles * 10% - 33,000 rubles \u003d 61,400 rubles is the minimum income in the first month.

  • 1st month: 90% downtime, income 94,600 rubles, expense 33,000 rubles, profit 61,600 rubles.
  • 2nd month: 85% downtime, income 141,900 rubles, expense 33,000 rubles, profit 108,900 rubles, coverage of all one-time investments, net profit from the next month.
  • 3rd month: 80% downtime, income 189,200 rubles, expense 33,000 rubles, profit 156,200 rubles.
  • 4th month: 75% downtime, income 236,500 rubles, expense 33,000 rubles, profit 203,500 rubles.
  • 5th month: 70% downtime, income 283,800 rubles, expense 33,000 rubles, profit 250,800 rubles.
  • 6th month: 65% downtime, income 331,100 rubles, expense 33,000 rubles, profit 298,100 rubles.

Calculation with a normal budget

One-time costs:

  • , 1 piece: 160 000 rubles.
  • Personal Computer: 12 000 rub.
  • minimum furniture: 20 000 rub.
  • minimum stock of materials: 60,000 rubles.
  • additional equipment for cutting blanks of material: 5,000 rubles.

Total: 257,000 rubles

Monthly costs:

  • rent of industrial premises: 20,000 rubles.
  • electricity: 6,000 rubles.
  • the cost of consumable tools (milling cutters, engravers, drills): 15,000 rubles.
  • advertising costs: 40,000 rubles.

Depending on the material being processed, the price per linear meter of cut varies significantly from 20-500 rubles. Let's take an average price of 60 r / m, cut at a speed of 6,000 mm / min. Those. 360 meters are cut in 1 hour, 2,880 meters in an eight-hour working day, which is 172,800 rubles.

Monthly income with such a load of 22 days * 172,800 rubles / day = 3,800,000 rubles.

Let's take the loading of the machine only 12% of the time (loading should be higher because there is no need to pre-cut the sheet, the machine allows you to put the whole sheet material, and the number of orders grows along with the possibilities, because the size of the machine is larger, more customers stay with you instead of looking for other options from competitors) due to the lack of a flurry of orders, time for preparing files, communicating with customers, fixing the workpiece, changing tools, and other business activities. This is 94600 rubles, such income pays for the costs of starting a business in the second month.

And if you consider that you already have some kind of customer base, that a machine, unlike a person, can work not 8, but all 24 hours, that cutting some materials can be more expensive, you can make a cheat on materials up to 50%, up to 100% surcharge for urgent work, and additional income comes from preparing the file for processing.

We can say with full confidence about the quick return on investment. And in 2-3 months it will be possible to increase the percentage of machine operation from 10 to 30-40%, and this already triples the profit.

Total 3,800,000 rubles * 25% - 81,000 rubles = 375,000 rubles is the minimum income in the first month.

  • 1st month: 88% downtime, income 456,000 rubles, expense 81,000 rubles, profit 375,000 rubles.
  • 2nd month: 83% downtime, income 646,000 rubles, expense 81,000 rubles, profit 565,000 rubles, coverage of all one-time investments, net profit from next month.
  • 3rd month: 78% downtime, income 836,000 rubles, expense 81,000 rubles, profit 755,000 rubles.
  • 4th month: 73% downtime, income 1,026,000 rubles, expense 81,000 rubles, profit 945,000 rubles.
  • 5th month: 68% downtime, income 1,216,000 rubles, expense 81,000 rubles, profit 1,135,000 rubles.
  • 6th month: 63% downtime, income 1,406,000 rubles, expense 81,000 rubles, profit 1,325,000 rubles.

plus

Nowadays, quite a high popularity among the goods of the most diverse purpose that are found on the market, consumers especially appreciate the products self made. As a result, making all kinds of products with your own hands, you can earn good money. In order to facilitate this task and produce the goods of the High Quality, without spending a lot of your time on it, you can use various additional devices, among which the most convenient to use are CNC engraving, milling or turning machines.

With the help of such equipment, even at home, you can make all kinds of wood products - decor elements, furniture and accessories, souvenirs and the like, while earning significant material resources. To do this, you just need to have the appropriate equipment and have certain skills in working on it.

Also, a good solution would be to establish cooperation with firms involved in finishing houses or construction companies, making for them this or that product using a CNC machine. In this case, you will not have to worry about finding buyers for your products that were made on such equipment.

How to set up work using a machine

Before starting such a performance of such work on earnings using the machine, you should carefully study the market, decide on the direction of activity, familiarize yourself with the cost of raw materials for working on the machine, as well as prices for finished products. As a result, it will be possible to determine the approximate amount of earnings.

The next step is to purchase all the equipment you need to earn money. The best option would be to buy:

  • CNC machine for complex processing;
  • milling machine;
  • a set of cutters and all necessary additional tools.

It is not recommended to purchase mini-machines because of their low reliability, it is best to choose a line for sawing and subsequent partial processing of workpieces. Of course, the purchase of such CNC machines requires considerable material costs, but by doing everything right, you can immediately start making good money, recouping all costs in the very near future.

Preparation of raw materials for work and personnel

The following types of wood are best suited as raw materials for CNC machines:

  • ash;
  • pine;
  • larch, as well as some others.

The specific choice of wood for the production of certain products depends on the products that will be manufactured.

In addition, when choosing such materials for making money, it is necessary to pay attention to their moisture content, since the quality of the final product largely depends on this.

In addition, we should not forget that it is possible to produce certain high-quality parts on CNC machines in order to earn a living if you have the appropriate skills to perform such work. The best option would be to select personnel in such a way that each machine has its own master, although you can handle such tasks on your own to perform work on a home machine.

Making money using a lathe

The easiest way to make money using a lathe, which is available to every person with certain skills in working on such equipment, is to independently manufacture various wood products.

The most competent decision for such earnings will be to prepare several types of products in advance, to take photographs finished works, make your price list by offering potential clients their services, demonstrating the work already completed.

In the case of making various souvenirs on a lathe for the purpose of earning money, you can give your own products to specialized stores for the purpose of sale. In addition, such and any other products made by hand on the machine can also be sold using the Internet.

Thus, the use of a lathe in order to make money can lead to amazing results, because modern models of such equipment make it possible to make figures, products and parts for anything of any shape and level of complexity on it.

Making money on a CNC machine

A modern alternative to the usual lathe is a CNC machine. With the help of such equipment, it is possible to quickly produce any products according to a template made on a computer using special programs.

In order to start this way of earning, of course, you must first purchase the machine itself, which will work in conjunction with a computer on which the appropriate software is installed.

In most cases, such CNC machines are used in the woodworking industry to make money. So, with the help of such equipment, various furniture sets are often made.

In itself, making money on CNC machines is a very profitable occupation, since such equipment allows you to process parts made of wood and metal. In addition, CNC technology makes it possible to engrave marble, as well as natural and artificial stone.

Advantages of CNC milling machines

The best solution for making money would be to use a CNC milling machine. Such equipment in skillful hands makes it possible to implement a wide variety of ideas.

In the woodworking industry, CNC milling machines allow you to select a variety of curved surfaces of irregular and regular shapes, sawing and rough calibration of products, making grooves, grooves, ridges and much more.

Other areas where the use of such machines is most common are the following:

  • furniture manufacturing. Extraordinary exclusive furniture from a variety of materials, including precious woods;
  • souvenir products. Carved boxes, photo frames, chess and more;
  • Promotional Products. Logos, signs, clichés and the like.
  • development of master models for subsequent mold casting.

A particularly promising way to make money with CNC equipment is to use it to produce a variety of forms. In this direction, the CNC machine is the most popular equipment, since only with its help you can quickly prepare the highest quality master model with any required parameters. Such forms are used to replicate certain products from any materials.

Engraving work

Another fairly promising way to make money on CNC equipment is to carry out engraving work on the surface of precious metals. This can be the production of certain inscriptions or images on rings, the production of gift medallions and medals, branded inscriptions on lighters, cigarette cases, flasks and similar products.

To perform such work with CNC equipment, which can give a very good income, you only need to have an engraving CNC machine, as well as a computer with the appropriate software.


Every master at some point asks himself the question: I have tools, I have a CNC machine. All this cost me a lot of money. How can I make a few dollars with them?”
The author of The Fe Factor channel will show how he realizes the possibilities of his machine, how you can earn $ 20 in 3 minutes. The amount you charge for your work depends largely on the local market and may vary.

Woodworking machines in this Chinese store.

In this example, the craftsman will make a 6″x18″ sign. It took him about two minutes to do the whole job. It took longer to open the app.
He likes this slogan and decided to make a sign using it. Nothing special in terms of font. Here the front panel of the kitchen cabinet is used. The carpenter sold it for 50 cents. As always, machine installation.


This process needs to be automated. ready to launch. It is important to remember to zero the coordinates in the MAX 4 program. To prevent accidental scratches from the cutter hook, you need to raise the axis by 5 cm.

We start the cutter. The wood is hard maple. After milling, we remove burrs in several places. This surface is already varnished. We take stain. We dip the brush a little. Let the wood absorb the stain. While this is happening, you can do other things. It is necessary that all cuts are well covered. You don't need to pour too hard either. If you have not used the stain for a long time, you need to mix it.

Small business on a CNC machine

In this video of the Family Business channel, Sergey Bukata talked about how you can make money with a CNC machine. Specifically, this is the manufacture of foundry models. They are used to make molds. The form, in turn, is needed for casting metal parts. As a rule, it is cast iron, aluminum or bronze. Models are made from different materials, in this case wood.

An order was received from an enterprise that has a foundry. By e-mail the drawings were dropped and based on them the master created a 3d model. Now this digital model needs to be turned into a real physical object. The type of wood for making models is ash. According to the scheme that you see on the screen, you need to make 6 such parts. The master picked up a workpiece that was suitable in size and began to work on a format machine. To begin with, I cut the parts in width. Then trimmed to length. By using planer created base surfaces. I returned to the formatter again and sawed the details through the thickness. Given the large width, in 2 passes. As a result, waste is generated.

With the help of a thickness gauge, he drives all the details to the final size. First in thickness, then in width. When all the blanks were driven into size, I began gluing. According to the drawing, I made a preliminary layout of the parts. Then a simple marking with the help of a filler device made holes for the dowels. The process is not difficult and quite fast. Although there are certainly others. effective ways assembling such parts. And, accordingly, earnings on numerical program management. Now you can start pressing the parts. Pipe clamps are used.



Read also on the topic:

  1. How to install a greenhouse - a few simple rules When to install a greenhouse
  2. Features of manufacturing a frame for a plastic greenhouse How to choose a high-quality reliable greenhouse
  3. Density of aluminum Density of silicon in kg m3
  4. Bird Animation